Pope Leo XIV has thanked a group of survivors of clerical abuse “for their painful testimony” and “reaffirmed his commitment” to end harm by Catholic priests at a meeting in southwestern France, the Vatican said.
The leader of the world’s 1.4 billion Catholics is on a four-day visit to France.
On Sunday, the pontiff visited the pilgrimage town of Lourdes, where he privately met seven survivors of child abuse, now adults, and promised to further efforts to reform the Church in the wake of the global sexual abuse scandal.
The group said in a later news conference that the meeting was emotional and touching.
“When he saw the state I was in, he took me into his arms,” survivor Jean-Marie Delbos said, adding, “It was an extraordinary moment.”
The 80-year-old was abused as a pupil at the nearby boarding school of Notre-Dame de Betharram, where staff have been accused of physical and sexual abuse over several decades.
The survivors said they felt heard and that they were impressed by Leo’s compassion and knowledge of their individual cases.
But they hoped the words would be accompanied by action.
Jerome Guillement, who has written about a priest abusing him as a teenager, said at the news conference that the pope understood the “systemic” nature of sexual abuse in the Church.
“From his point of view, the perpetrators are individuals, but what allows it to continue is the systemic dimension within the institution,” he said.
“He certainly believes that the Church has done a great deal in France, but he also believes that the Church in France still has a tremendous amount left to do.”
Local leaders hoped Leo’s visit would help repair the Church’s standing after a 2021 independent inquiry found that some 330,000 French children had been abused by Catholic clergy and lay leaders over seven decades.
The pope told an estimated 150,000 people gathered for a Mass in a field near the famed Catholic shrine in Lourdes earlier on Sunday that the Church must have the courage to face its past.
Veronique Garnier, another survivor who met with the pontiff, said she had found the Mass, in which Leo referred to abuse without directly apologising for it, troubling and wondered why she had attended.
But she said she was encouraged by her meeting with Leo.
“I do indeed believe there is hope – hope that there can be change and truly listening to us at a deep level, rather than just superficially, with beautiful words that are never followed by any real action,” she said.
Leo also spoke about the abuse scandals in a closed-door meeting with French bishops on Sunday, according to a Vatican-provided text.
The pontiff also condemned France’s legalisation of medically assisted death in July as immoral “false compassion” during his visit to the Lourdes shrine associated with miraculous healings on Sunday, his third day in France.
The pope sought to encourage people who live in “terrible pain” that they have inherent dignity that no law or algorithm can eliminate.
“What is legal is not necessarily moral,” Leo said at the Mass, drawing applause from the crowd.
Catholic teaching holds that all human life must be protected from conception until natural death, leading to its firm opposition to abortion, euthanasia and medically assisted dying.

